Promised Land (Weiß - MoV)

Honeybee schrieb:

Warum kauft ihr euch ständig Sachen, wo es hinterher etwas zu bemängeln gibt? Ich meine - immer wieder? 

 

 

Meinst Du jetzt FTDs? 

@ Honeybee
Aber das mit den Mängeln bei Vinyl kann man doch vorher nicht wissen, ist aber leider so, wie Mike und Fronk sagten, bei gemischtem Vinyl und auch bei farbigem gibt es manchmal Einbrennungen von Restvinyl, daher das Knistern. Aber wer kein Vinyl kauft braucht sich darüber keine Gedanken machen.


Was anderes ist es bei den FTD-CD's !


@ Mike

habe mal bei einigen die Laufzeiten der Songs auf dem Promised Land Cover bzw. bei Discogs verglichen - Vinyl als auch CD - Song: Promised Land
Die anderen Lieder der neuen MOV (MoV) weichen u.a. von der Promised Land LP - Deutschland PL 80873 - auch teilweise ab.
Die meisten Originalpressungen in Vinyl aus unterschiedlichen Ländern haben beim Song Promised Land die 2,51 Min.
Erst die neueren von Friday Music 2016 und MOV (MoV) 2021 haben auf dem Cover und Label 2,55 Min.
Bei den CD's der Welt wird auch nur bei PL 2,51 Min ausgegeben, nur die jap. CD von 1990 hat 2,54 Min.

HALT, STOP

bei den erweiterten CD's von 2000 auch 2,55 Min

Der LP Master ist 2:51. Und obwohl in letzter Zeit vielfach mit 2:55 / 54 angegeben, läuft er nur 2:51. Woher kommt die falsche Zeitangabe? Ganz einfach, für die Esssential 70s Masters wurde der Song neu remixed von Dennis Ferrante. Hier läuft der Song länger - 2.55. Diesen Remix gibt es sonst nur noch auf der 2000 Promised land CD mit den Good times bonus Tracks (ist auch in der 20 Original Albums Box verwendet). Irgendwie hat man in letzter Zeit also die Zeitangabe vom Remix fälschlicherweise übernommen, sogar bei "Elvis At Stax".

Danke für deine Aufklärung. Mir ist aber auch aufgefallen, dass manche Zeitangaben der neuen Promised Land unterschiedlich zu anderen PL-Alben sind. u.a. LOVE SONG OF THE YEAR, 3.32 Min. Das habe ich noch nicht verglichen !

Aus dem gleichen Grund. Alle Titel der "Promised land" und "Good Times" wurden für die Essential 70s Masters Box neu remixed (bis auf "Take good care of her") und weisen z.T. andere Längen auf wie die LP Master. Die Laufzeiten der neuen Remixe wurden dann fälschlicherweise übernommen. Wenn Du schaust, "Love Song Of The Year" LP Master 3:15, Remix 3:32.

Geht denn kein Label mehr mit der nötigen Akribie ans Werk bei den Elvis-Produkten ? Wird überall, egal ob FTD, MRS, MOV, vielleicht noch weitere, geschlampt ?

Ronny, ich kaufe ja eigentlich nur Studio-Aufnahmen. Da geht meistens nicht schief. 
Ich lese halt immer mit, wenn irgendwelche Live-Sachen veröffentlicht werden. Egal ob offiziell oder als Imports. Und ich stelle eben fest, dass bei den Live-Recordings, egal ob SB, AR, Soundbooth oder Multitrack oft irgendwelche Schwächen gefunden werden. 
Ich will das nicht beurteilen. Kann ich auch gar nicht. 
Aber ihr seid irgendwie unerschütterlich - trotz der vielen negativen Erfahrungen. Ich glaube, ich hätte schon aufgegeben und würde da nicht mehr investieren. 
Natürlich kann ich die Sammelleidenschaft auch nachvollziehen. Trotzdem finde ich es bemerkenswert. 

Honeybee schrieb:

ich kaufe ja eigentlich nur Studio-Aufnahmen. Da geht meistens nicht schief.

Ich habe jetzt 'mal die Soundboards weggelassen.


FTD

Production errors:

Too Much Monkey Business (2000) - mastering error on Loving Arms (doubled intro)
Drop-outs are found on these positions (all in the right channel): Track 6 - 0:20 ("...harm she's done") / Track 6 - 1:05 - 1:07 / Track 7 - 0:07 (digital clip) revealing serious mastering error / Track 9 - 1:24 ("closing time most..") / Track 9 - 1:40 - 1:42 / Track 19 - Several places...
Easter Special (2001) - mastering errors resulting in digital clicking and noise throughout. 
So High (2003) - production fault on So High (take 1). FTD replaced the disc.
Elvis Today (2005) - mastering error resulting in significant volume mismatch between master takes and outtakes.
Elvis (Fool) (2010) - production error on disc 2 resulting in repeated take of Fool. FTD replaced the disc.
Stage Rehearsal (2011) - mastering glitch on Patch It Up guitar solo.
Our Memories Of Elvis (2012) - mastering error on Are You Sincere & Spanish Eyes.
Hits Of The 70s (2012) - incorrect version of My Way in place of the correct 1977 single.
One Night In Vegas - Audio drop-outs during You've Lost That Lovin Feeling (at around 40 secs in and 4.04). Also the band introductions are left out.
6363 Sunset - Digital clicks on several tracks: For The Good Times (in right channel), Until It's Time To Go and Shake A Hand.
Girl Happy - The original 'Girl Happy' had the wrong take (take 4 instead of master) of 'You'll Be Gone' plus an all new tinny reverb on the masters
A Date With Elvis - Last few tracks of disc 2 (The Home Recordings) suffer from digital errors. Several other members have also reported hearing an audio glitch on the last track - It's Been So Long Darling - which some have suggested is a poor digital transfer.
Hot August Night - Tracklisting numbering incorrect on the sleeve (and printed on the CD). Both 'Love Me Tender' and 'Jailhouse Rock/Don't Be Cruel' are listed as track 5, so the order compared to the actual CD is incorrect from then on.
Elvis Is Back Sessions - CD 2 Soldier boy 4.23 crack, CD has been replaced


Take errors:

Long Lonely Highway:
Surely it's important to collectors to know that what we are listening to is take 1 of She's Not You, and not take 2
Memphis Sessions:
We are listening to takes 3 & 14 of Wearin That Loved On Look, and not takes 3 & 10. From a Jack to a King isn't takes 1, 2, 3, but 2, 1, 3.
Silver Screen Stereo:
We are listening to take 3b, and not 11 of Clambake.
Burbank 68:
Wrong date listed for the rehearsal of Baby What You want Me To Do
Trouble/Guitar Man is listed as being from the 6pm stand-up show, but is actually recorded at Western Recorders on June 22nd
If I Can Dream is a vocal overdub, and not take 4 (the master)
Easter Special:
It Is No Secret is not take 12 as listed, but take 5
Stand by Me is not take 2 as listed, but takes 5 & 6
So High is not take 2 as listed, but the false start of take 2 along with take 3
An Evening Prayer is not take 2 as listed, but take 3
Seeing is Believing is listed as take 4, but is actually dialogue from take 1, the fs from take 2, and then take 4
Jungle Room Sessions:
Bitter They Are - not takes 2-5, but takes 3-5
I'll Never Fall In Love Again - not take 5, but takes 4 & 5
Moody Blue - not take 3, but take 7, parts of 8&4, and then take 5
Love Coming Down - not take 2, but take 3
Made in Memphis:
Thinking about You - not take 3, but takes 2&3
You Asked Me To - not take 1, but takes 1&2a
Solitaire - talk listed as takes 6&7, but from 4&5
For the Heart - listed as take 5, but is actually 5a
I Sing All Kinds:
Until It's Time For You To Go - not the first version as listed, but the remake
His Songs Of Praise Vol.1:
"Amazing Grace" (1) is listed as take 2 undubbed, but it is take 2 without chorus track.
"An American Trilogy" (4) is wrongly listed as Aloha version, but it is the single version from Las Vegas, February 16, 1972, MS
"Bridge Over Troubled Water" (6) is wrongly listed as unedited undubbed master, but it is take 5 from Essential Elvis - Vol. 4 - A Hundred Years From Now.
His Songs Of Praise Vol.2:
Whole CD was mastered too loud and suffered from clipping somewhat'...(source When In Rome) In addition, the following mistakes on the track listings were noted by the elvisoncd site:
Track 09 - Padre is listed in the secton "undubbed songs", but it is the master (mono) with all overdubs.
Track 10 - You'll Never Walk Alone is listed as extended master, but it is take 2.
Track 16 - Listed as March 31, 1972 recording, but it is spliced from March 29, 1977, Alexandria (Bosom Of Abraham) and March 31, 1972, rehearsal (You Better Run) recordings.
Track 01 - I, John was recorded on June 9, 1971 and not on June 10, 1976, as listed.
Track 04 - Reach Out To Jesus was recorded on June 8, 1971 and not on June 9, 1971, as listed.
Track 31 - The First Noel was recorded on May 16, 1971 and not on May 21, 1971, as listed.
Track 32 - O Come, All Ye Faithful was recorded on May 16, 1971 and not on May 21, 1971, as listed.
Tracks 04 and 08 are listed as undubbed alternate takes. This term is needless, because only master takes are overdubbed.
This is Elvis:
On cover and booklet is listed "Don't Be Cruel (September 9, 1956. "The Ed Sullivan Show")", but the correct date is January 6, 1957!
"Suspicious Minds" is listed as "That's The Way It Is" version (August 12, 1970 midnight show ), but it is the version from January 14, 1973 "Aloha From Hawaii".
"Hound Dog" is listed as version from July 1, 1956 "The Steve Allen Show", but it is the Milton Berle Show version from CD 1 without overdubs. Because of this the song "Hound Dog" from the Steve Allan Show is missing here, although this version was in in the movie
Trouble / Guitar Man Medley isn't the edited shortened version (02:19) as stated on the cover. it is the original version with a running time of 03:27.
Elvis for Everyone:
Take 9 of I Slipped, I Stumbled, I Feel is actually take 10.
Elvis Sings The Wonderful World Of Christmas:
Merry Christmas Baby (Take 1 unedited) is not the complete undubbed take. Silver Bells doesn't include take 2, just take 1


Artwork cock-ups:

White borders -- Regardless if you like the white borders or not, these albums were not originally issued with white bordered front covers,
but behold they suddenly appeared on these highlighted FTD re-issues of classic albums...
1. Elvis as Recorded Live on Stage in Memphis (2004) WHITE BORDER
2. Elvis Is Back! (2005) WHITE BORDER
3. Tickle Me - EP (2005) WHITE BORDER
4. Today (2005) WHITE BORDER
5. Loving You (2006) WHITE BORDER
6. Something For Everybody (2006) WHITE BORDER
7. Elvis Presley (2006) WHITE BORDER
8. Clambake (2006) WHITE BORDER
9. His Hand In Mine (2006) WHITE BORDER

Wild In The Country - The cover of the 'Wild In The Country' FTD stated Presely on the spine (they did replace that one)
Elvis For Everyone! - The song "Forget Me Never" is printed as "Forgive Me Never" on CD 2, "Millionth" is spelled "Millonth" on the CD.
Live A Little, Love A Little - The caption to the picture of Rudy Vallee with Elvis in the booklet calls the film Live A Little, Live A Little
Kid Galahad - "I Got Licky" title on the record label on the inside cover behind the CD.
Best Of British - The RCA Years - On the CD label is an error. There is printed: "The HMV Years..." instead of "The RCA Years...".



  

Ach du kacke

 

Ja gut, es geht anscheinend so einiges schief. Aber mit den Laufgeschwindigkeiten scheint man weniger Probleme zu haben. 

@Mike:
Bin eben erst dazugekommen mir die Promised Land anzuhören.
War ja auf Grund der Berichte etwas skeptisch, bin nun aber restlos begeistert.
Vielleicht hatte ich ja Glück, aber mein Exemplar hat kein einziges Knistergeräusch.
Das Klangbild harmonisch und angenehm warm. Mir hat ja die Friday Music Ausgabe klanglich auch sehr zugesagt.
Die neue MOV ist aber eine Klasse für sich. Zudem sieht das marmorierte Vinyl echt Klasse aus.
Das Cover ist halt leider sicher sehr empfindlich, aber optisch wirklich Top.